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Poster: | cashel | Date: | Aug 14, 2004 2:58pm |
Forum: | election_2004 | Subject: | Re: an outsider looks at the USA |
This post was modified by cashel on 2004-08-14 21:58:36
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Poster: | tom w. | Date: | Aug 15, 2004 2:26am |
Forum: | election_2004 | Subject: | Re: an outsider looks at the USA |
this is a forum. it implies discussion. i AM listening to australians, YOU!
as far as having "confidence in usa ability to capture terrorists" i would remind you that the majority of american terrorists have been caught and prosecuted (mcveigh, unibomber, members of kkk, weatherman collective) as far as the "anthrax murderers", this hardly compares to the terrorism of alqaeda and the aformentioned. do you know how many people have died from anthrax?
justice systems, yours, ours, anyones, are not infallable and often counterproductive but shouldnt be abondoned for not being perfect.
as youve illustrated, terrorist organizations know no boarders and should be seen as a concern for humanity and not this or that nation. my previous post distinguished between the actions of governments and the will of people when it comes to international affairs and foriegn policy. poll americans, or non-americans for that matter, and they will say that the "international community" should have more say in international issues,, e.g. war, trade agreements, poll government officials about the same issue and they will go on with some rhetoric about the need for soveriegnty.
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Poster: | cashel | Date: | Aug 15, 2004 7:17am |
Forum: | election_2004 | Subject: | Re: an outsider looks at the USA |
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Poster: | moxey | Date: | Aug 29, 2004 9:45am |
Forum: | election_2004 | Subject: | Re: an outsider looks at the USA |
again no disrespect is meant to anyone on this forum.
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Poster: | mbrlr | Date: | Oct 30, 2004 3:39pm |
Forum: | election_2004 | Subject: | Re: an outsider looks at the USA |
Iraq seems to have had not one single thing to do with 9/11 and yet the United States, our country, invaded and deposed its leader. He was a reprehensible fellow, no doubt, but we used misstatements and half-truths to justify the invasion. Oh, and what about OBL, the fellow that actually masterminded the deaths of 3000 Americans? Oh, nevermind him...but we'll come back to that.
We have few real allies in Iraq. Those we have we've hurt. Is Tony Blair in good shape these days? Rather than showing wisdom and at least a modicum of humility towards our allies and the rest of the world, we've shown pride and a haughty spirit. Remember the bit about destruction and a fall? This explains why we've gone from a position where the entire world was one with us after 9/11 and now is disgusted by us. ...and because the administration was so hot and bothered to invade Iraq, we let OBL get away so he could make pre-election videos. The best argument I've read lately (and I can't recall which columnist, unfortunately) was essentially that we should impeach our current judicially installed warmonger by voting him out of office and attempt to bring some sanity back to Washington. Will we still have to fight on in Iraq and try to bring some level of stability there? Sure, but at least we'd have someone in office who doesn't see himself or the United States as God's chosen one. Hubris is destructive both personally and on a national/international level.
Throw the bums out come next Tuesday.